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IE7 will feature CSS2 and alphatransparent png files!

Published on July 31, 2005 By Thomas Thomassen In WinCustomize News

Yup! That's right! If you are a webdeveloper you'll be very interesting in one of the recent statements from the IE team. They are working to fully support CSS2 (and CSS2.1 when it's recommened). Additionally, they are fixing quite a few rendering bugs. They have spent alot of time identifying all the various bugs and quirks reported by the webdeveloper community and plans to fix at least the worst of them. (The ABBR tag will appear in IE7!)
It's hard to belive that such a statement finally came, considering it's all seemed so very dead from IE since XP. When we first saw lifesign it was all about security and the webdevs still felt left out. But now our time has come! Read the blogentry for you self. I*m sure it'll bring a smile to your face!

Comments (Page 2)

Tarkus

on Aug 02, 2005

Regardless of what Maxthon has on their site, the fact remains, it's a wrapper for IE. It uses the IE engine. So it's not like Opera, Firefox, OSX or any of your other examples. It IS Internet Explorer with extra features.

Yes, of course it would be nice if IE had all that stuff built-in, but it doesn't, and probably never will. So if you want the benefits of IE without some of the drawbacks, there are solutions, such as Maxthon.

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horizon

on Aug 02, 2005

Fair enough.

drumguy1384

on Aug 03, 2005

Regardless of what Maxthon has on their site, the fact remains, it's a wrapper for IE.

IE wrapper, stand-alone browser, it doesn't matter! It may run on top of IE, It may be based on the code of IE, but it has become a whole new animal all together. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is certainly not an elephant. It cannot be considered IE anymore. And, after all, anyone who is capable enough to go and download Maxthon (or any other non-IE browser/plugin for that matter) is not who we are talking about here anyway.

We are talking about those that will NEVER download a 3rd party browser (or "wrapper") as long as they've got one built in. The people who comprise the overwhelming majority of internet users out there. This whole thread is about IE finally coming into compliance with CSS regs and fixing other rendering glitches. So, web designers can stop worrying about things rendering properly in IE ... or designing for IE at the expense of other browsers.

So if you want the benefits of IE without some of the drawbacks, there are solutions, such as Maxthon.

There is also another entire conversation in this statement. What, exactly, could you call "benefits" of IE? It's minimalistic approach to features? Oh wait, the lack of features is one of the drawbacks ... How about it's wonderful liberal approach to page rendering? Oh yeah, that's one of the problems they are fixing in IE7. It's small footprint? Oh, you say you lost that when you added a "wrapper" to it that is larger than most other whole browsers? Hmmm ... I'm all out of things that IE brings to mind off the bat and I'm not seeing any benefits yet. Except maybe the ability to surf the web(that is one thing IE has going for it), but how is that a benefit over any other browser?

But never fear friend, as soon as IE7 comes out (and the subsequent Maxthon release) your "benefits of IE" will finally be up to snuff with the rest of us. lol

Tarkus

on Aug 03, 2005

What, exactly, could you call "benefits" of IE?

For starters, it works on 99.9% of all websites. Name me another browser that does so.

Secondly, there are many, many programs and extensions written to support IE. Granted, other browsers have this too. But Maxthon has it's own plugins, plus can use many of those written specifically for IE.

Except maybe the ability to surf the web(that is one thing IE has going for it), but how is that a benefit over any other browser?

Right, because who uses a browser to surf the web?

But hey, unlike the obnoxious Firefox and Opera fanboys, I'm not trying to get anyone to conform to my choices. I'll always be the very first one to say you should use what works best for you, and not try and tell others what to use.

I'm only pointing out that there are already options that add a lot of cool features to the IE engine, if you find that works best for you.

horizon

on Aug 03, 2005

Well aside from the only important part being the initial IE release, but not the pluggins, because thats all a developer and such can expect people to use, and that microsoft should have features like most of the other browsers so as not to just be nice to developers but also users, such as tabs and popup blockers (even though SP2 or whatever took care of that one) if for no other reason than to just be nice to use spoiled people... They could even be really nice and whatever is finally released as 7.0, make a compatible mac version, (they're still stuck on like 5.0 or 5.5) and most importantly make the throbber like really really cool spinning around and doing flips and such, with like pixie dust and fireworks going off in the background as the windows logo sings your favorite song in the microsoft sam voice.

But Tarkus, forgive me for saying what must be said...

g0 d0wn10ad FiRef0x n b a 1337 fAnB0y 1iKe uS, j00 n00bzor.

But yeah he is right, IE isn't just the most used browser, there's some sites that just won't work on anything but. Usually I only have that trouble when I'm purchasing something and sometimes certain online forms, but it's enough to make you notice.

Tarkus

on Aug 03, 2005

Heh. I have nothing against Firefox, and even use it occasionally, but I have to admit, that the religious zealotry exhibited by many FF users makes me LESS likely to use it. There's little I find more obnoxious about software than users who act like there's something wrong with you unless you use what they use. I don't drink the Kool-Aid for anyone.

horizon

on Aug 03, 2005

You'd turn down grape Kool-Aid?!

Jafo

on Aug 03, 2005

Thanks for the Kool-Aid, Reverend Jim....

[a line in a song from ManOWar]....

Tarkus

on Aug 04, 2005

You'd turn down grape Kool-Aid?!

Absolutely.

Now turning down tropical punch Kool-Aid might be a bit of a challenge.

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